Are the Luminar catalogs on Mac and Windows interchangeable?

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    Marcello Macedo

    Here we go...
    My vote is for Sebin George!

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    Sebin George

    Hi all,

    I have wrote an app to convert the catalog from Windows to Mac, which is availabe here:

    https://github.com/sebing/LuminarConverter/blob/master/release/LuminarConverter.jar

     

    The instructions to run it are available here:

    https://github.com/sebing/LuminarConverter/blob/master/readme.md

     

    I have tested it with my Luminar 4 installation in both Wndows and Mac.

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    Marcello Macedo

    Hi people,

    Sebin George: Just to be clear, I know that you are a contributor, so I'm not expecting you to solve the problem. You already did an awesome job with the Win to Mac tool.
    I totally agree that it is a shame that Skylum didn't solve this issue yet, and they ought to come up with a solution. I'm sure that other people have the same issue.
    It is a lack of respect to our work. Skylum says we can export the photos to PNG/JPG. So what? I'm losing all anyway, and it prevents any future adjustment or synching the adjustments to other photos.

    Alina Skylum, Maryna Skylum, Kate Williams, @Skylum Team: Anything??
    As per Sebin's comment, it is like a one week task for someone without the product knowledge; thus, it should be dramatically less for the Skylum to develop this tool. Don't your customers deserves this little effort?

    BR,
    Marcello.

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    Anna V

    Hi Henry,

    You can share one Luminar Catalog only between computers that have the same OS platform(between MacOS or Windows computers). 

     

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    Henry Alekna

    Hi Anna, thanks for your reply.

    So is there any option for transferring edits between different operating systems? It would be a really useful feature to have, if, for example, the edit information for each image could be exported as a text file, which Luminar could then read and apply to the different images.

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    Terry Rogers

    Hi Henry! Thank you for your suggestion, we will notify our developers so they can consider it for one of our future releases.

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    Moritz Weiger

    I tried this myself.

    First, I copied the catalog-files and all the RAW-files from a Windows machine to a MacBook Pro. Then I opened the catalog on the MacBook, searched for the missing folders where the RAWs are in and the catalog with the pictures shows up without any problems.

    But now when I open up a picture to see the edits that I made on the Windows machine to this picture, the picture just looks like the original one, like no edits had made. But when I look at the history (don't know which term is used in the english version, I use the german one), I can see the changes made on the Windows machine (see the screenshot). But why aren't they applied on the picture on the MacBook?

    Vice versa it's the same: Editing a picture on MacBook, copying the catalog and the picture to Windows and open it, the changes don't show, but are visible in the history.

    The list of changes is there, but they are not applied to the picture when copying between Windows and OS X.

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    Thomas Eilermann

    Hello Luminar,

    I've heard that they don't want to fix the bug. I don't think that's okay from the customer's point of view. I should be able to change the computer system. When I bought the software, I was not told about it and it is also not understandable why it does not work.
    If there are really insurmountable compatibility differences between the sql-Lite on Macintosh and on Windows, it can also be solved using a migration program.
    However, there should be a solution!
    When do you want to solve this problem?


    Best regards, Thomas Eilermann

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    Kate Williams

    Hi Thomas,

    Luminar catalogs on Mac and Windows are structured a bit differently inside and the processes that happen under-the-hood are a bit different due to the peculiarities of the OS. Thus, it's not recommended to share the same catalog between different OS. 

    Right now, our main focus is on improving the stability, performance of the software, its editing algorithms as well as working on the promised features that are listed on our Roadmap: https://skylum.com/luminar/roadmap 

    Therefore, at the moment, we have no precise ETA for when the compatibility mode will be enabled. 

    Nonetheless, if any news comes up, we'll make sure to make it known. 

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    Thomas Eilermann

    Hello Kate,

    is actually not really understandable. But if this is the case and there is no possibility for a migration, you should do the following:
    Include this point in your FAQ as soon as possible! - Is that possible?

    https://skylum.com/de/luminar-faq/4


    Best regards, Thomas Eilermann

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    Helga Rowles

    Hi Thomas, I will definitely share the suggestion to include this information in FAQ with a team in charge.

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    Bharat Veeranki

    This is a required feature for me too. I sometimes want to use my windows desktop and sometimes my macbook pro. Not sure what is involved in getting this working. If it is just how the files in the catalog are structured, you can easily write some code to be able to export and import catalog which will take care of how the catalog needs to be structured on a specific OS.

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    Bharat Veeranki

    That's great work. I will give it a try.

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    Marcello Macedo

    Hi Gang!

    Any news on this? I'm migrating from Mac to Windows, and I need to convert the catalog.

    Sebin George: does your tool does the opposite way, also, i.e., from Mac to Windows? BTW, great job!

    Anybody tried the Avalanche for this purpose?

     

    I've been using Luminar for sometime, and I already got my handful of disappointments, all of them related to this database, which is very fragile, limited, and unreliable. I'll restate the piece of advice I gave on another thread: it is time to abandon the database and start using sidecars.

    BR,

    Marcello.

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    Marcello Macedo

    Hi Gang!
    I finally bought my new PC (Win10) and I'm struggling to migrate the catalog from Mac to Windows.
    I did some research, dig into the forums history, and I got the Sebin George code to understand how he did the Windows to Mac migration.
    I opened the catalog with an Database editor, and did the following adjustments:
    -Update the "volumes" table to include the new HD SerialNumber.
    -Update the "paths" table to point to the new Windows folders. The folder structure is the same.

    I understood how the images are referred to in the "images" table, how the changes history is kept in the "image_history_state_proxy" table, and how each action is stored in the "img_history_states" table. 

    I could see that the whole history from the Mac version is still there.

    I opened the migrated catalog and I could see all my images there, but they are all on their "Original" states, despite the whole history is there.

    What is missing to complete the migration?
    I'm absolutely not considering losing all my work.

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    Sebin George

    Hi Member,

    I don't have the latest versions of Luminar. When I have tried, it was in version 3. 

    I assume they have changed the way the catalog stores data. It is too much of trial and error and time-consuming to find out what is going on in the background. If there is a demand, skylum should either publish the documentation so we can develop a migration tool. Or they should support it. 

     

    If you have the right information it is not a big deal. May be a week of work. It is a shame skylum may not have cross-platform users demanding this. 

     

    Kind Regards. 

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    Sebin George

    Thanks for the kind words. 

    I use both windows and mac interchangeably, running that script and syncing was a pain for me. That is the reason I have moved to Lightroom. 

    Kind Regards.

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    Margaret Bright

    Hi guys, 

    Regrettably, there's no new information for now regarding adding the ability to migrate catalogs between two OS. I have forwarded your feedback to our team, though, to have them consider raising the priority for this feature request.

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    Marcello Macedo

    Thank you, Margaret.
    I'm sure this feature will be welcome by many users.
    We just need a migration tool. It can be standalone, doesn't need to be fancy.
    BR,
    Marcello.

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    Sebin George

    I don't have Luminar anymore. If I can get a licence, guidance from the devs and funding for the migration tool, I don't mind spending some time correcting the existing tool. 

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    Christoph Keppler

    Dear Luminar Team, 

    I am having the very same problem right now. The sad part is: I specifically asked if I was able to use the software on both OS and Windows and was not told that the catalogs are incompatible. 

    This is a huge drawback of the software and I will loose thousands of edits moving from one laptop to the next one. This is not a bug. This a MAJOR DRAWBACK that is just another reason why Luminar is still not heads up with Lightroom or Capture One.

    I am honestly a bit lost on how to proceed and I would have NEVER moved to Luminar with this information upfront. And I think this will also keep me from ever using it in a professional context. The way Skylum deals with the fix of important issues (years without a fix and even transferring the issue from Luminar 3 to 4 to AI is a warning sing to every customer.

     

    PLEASE have this fixed and please also ensure continuity between Luminar AI and NEO for the catalogs! 

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    Marcello Macedo

    Hi Christopher,

    If both of your computers use the same OS (Windows or Mac), it is quite simple to transfer the catalog, and this piece of software work.

    Hopefully you're luckier than me and many others that switched OS.

    And, yes: Luminar takes forever to fix things, when they fix at all.

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    Sebin George

    It is a shame Luminar doesn't want to spend a few days with a developer to have this feature. 

     

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    Kyle Traeger

    I am also in the same boat wishing this was an option, traveling with my MBP and working from home on a more powerful desktop. Quite pathetic at the lack of implementation of fixes from Luminar. They seem to be more concerned with developing new software rather than fixing and enhancing old software. 

    Time to move to Lightroom I suppose.

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